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Title: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: AndCycle on 2012-06-01, 19:11:57
http://www.safia-lb.com/

great, another really serious DRM system with no known weakness, and only use in Japan,
why I have to suffer from another DRM system for what I bought?
I thought that should be over for years and it just keeps coming back,
they just keep making me never own any content I bought.
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: 8BB76E1 on 2012-06-06, 10:45:30
well.. some kind of content protection is expected.. but I can't find any info about how the public keys are distributed and if there is also any regional restriction..

but I guess I'll find out eventually.. (I preordered the Showa iVDR.. ^_^;)
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: 8BB76E1 on 2012-06-26, 05:27:35
just reminding there are only three days left till the end of preorders.. ^^
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: mandi on 2012-06-26, 14:56:04
I had read on twitter it sold out, but it looks like it's only the set with the player and you can still buy the individual iVDR....

But I don't really like the iVDR system either... Unless you can use regular hard drives instead of their "cassettes"? The price seems way to high for the blank ones they sell on the site. :( But I have wanted a recorder for a while, just don't have the time to research them... (Or the money to buy them ::) ) I guess I will have to make time to research it before time runs out!
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: tenton on 2012-06-26, 21:40:34
You can go ahead and stack iVDR next to D-VHS and PD. I can't imagine this format taking off anywhere (certainly not in the US where it's the hard disk based DVRs that people want).

I'm not sure one can use regular hard drives instead of cassettes; I thought I saw some accessory that lets you use the cassette as a data storage device; I can't imagine this accessory existing and allowing normal HDDs as a video recording device. Or else, who would buy the "cassettes"?

While I would like to see the Shouwa concert in HD, I think I'll just be waiting for it to show up on Blu-ray someday. If it never shows up, my loss, but I'll keep money in my pocket (who am I kidding? I'll spend it on something else ;D )
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: 8BB76E1 on 2012-06-27, 05:16:57
hmm.. I didn't know it's sold out.. Good for Momoi.. ^_^ I was a bit afraid, mainly because I also don't expect iVDR to be successful.. Not in this form with mechanical HDDs.. (but for me, it was maybe one more reason to buy it) Maybe when SSD becomes cheap enough, some new generation of iVDR might have a chance..

And there's also this SAFIA protection, so I can't even make a backup.. >_<

As for some another release of this concert, they said it's supposed to be iVDR exclusive, no plans for releasing it on DVD or BD.. I don't understand this strategy much.. I'm sure a lot of people would buy it.. (including me, even if I preordered the iVDR.. ^_^;; ) But maybe it was just to increase sales of this release and they will "change mind" later.. ^^
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: tenton on 2012-06-27, 16:15:57
Yeah, of course they say it's an IVDR exclusive. Who would buy it otherwise?  :P

If IVDR just bombs out, we could see it on another format in a few years. I'm patient, I'll wait.  8)
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: AndCycle on 2012-07-16, 06:04:36
player set delayed to the end of this month  :-X
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: AndCycle on 2012-07-25, 14:46:11
just received
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: 8BB76E1 on 2012-07-25, 23:14:59
just received
nice.. ^_^

it was pretty fast.. you ordered directly from IO Plaza, or RG guys sent it to you? ^_^ mine was shipped from Japan today / yesterday.. I wonder how long it will stay at customs..
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: AndCycle on 2012-07-31, 15:55:18
well the iVDR-S's protection is really ridiculous,

I bought a IODATA RHDM-US/EX for playback on PC, and found it sucks,

play iVDR-S content require HDCP->
all monitor have to support HDCP->
Laptop's internal monitor doesn't have HDCP=iVDR-S refuse to play=all Laptop can not play iVDR-S

victim of copyright protection
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: AndCycle on 2012-07-31, 16:04:49
by the way, the harddrive expose the entire file system if it's not hook up with iVDR server,
that means you can accidentally delete your precious video file,
well, what a media
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: tenton on 2012-08-03, 23:14:12
Are you telling me there was no protocol set to write protect the files or even to have a partition that's not writable on a non-blank release? Seriously?

HDCP requirement sounds about right, though. Blu-ray players are this way too (and so is my cable box and DVR).

I'm pretty sure my laptops have HDCP from the graphics to the LCD panel. It's a requirement for Blu-ray playback.
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: AndCycle on 2012-08-04, 10:13:30
yea, it just works like an usual 2.5" portable HardDrive format with UDF, single partition, no protection at all,

about the HDCP requirement?
well usually the laptop's internal monitor is using LVDS to connect which definitely has no HDCP that require explicit handle by Graphic Card,
which means the Video Driver has to do the job,
I don't think my X201s is so outdated and I can search numerous post talking about Intel HD graphic has HDCP issue, so hopeless,

anyway I am dumping directly from HDMI that I think can be done on next week, screw DRM.
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: 8BB76E1 on 2013-10-14, 16:44:18
I'm curious how high this ends up.. ^^ http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m113307110
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: tenton on 2013-10-14, 18:39:20
Is IVDR dead yet? Can I expect Showa on BD for her 15th anniversary? Or should I be waiting for the 20th?  ;D
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: 8BB76E1 on 2013-10-19, 14:07:02
I'm curious how high this ends up.. ^^ http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m113307110

hmm.. 20 minutes before the end, highest bid was still only 6500 JPY, but then.. 42500 JPY ending price.. ^_^
http://i39.tinypic.com/1078aza.jpg (http://i39.tinypic.com/1078aza.jpg)
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: shinji on 2013-11-03, 09:55:56
I'm curious how high this ends up.. ^^ http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m113307110

hmm.. 20 minutes before the end, highest bid was still only 6500 JPY, but then.. 42500 JPY ending price.. ^_^
http://i39.tinypic.com/1078aza.jpg (http://i39.tinypic.com/1078aza.jpg)

Wow... way more than retail on the set, even after my proxy fees. It doesn't have the autograph either...
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: AndCycle on 2014-04-05, 16:18:00
just listened today's wallop, well

2013 TGIF live will also released in iVDR, ooookkkk ....
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: shinji on 2014-04-06, 08:54:53
just listened today's wallop, well

2013 TGIF live will also released in iVDR, ooookkkk ....

So I'm winning so far... or losing depending on how you look at it.
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: mandi on 2014-04-07, 07:25:01
 ::) i was pretty surprised by this news. lots of people seem really happy about it thought. i guess because they can get more use out of their iVDR player.

TGIF live had an awesome setlist with lots of rare songs, I think it was one of her best lives recently, but maybe that's my denpa fan side speaking ;) I wrote a report on it here: http://www.denpanosekai.com/2013/11/live-live.html Anyway, I hope lots of people can see this, despite being on iVDR... I didn't buy a player last time, so now I'm starting to regret it :-\ Wish I had more cash.
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: momoken on 2014-04-09, 18:23:47
http://ameblo.jp/den-shock/entry-11815568208.html
 (http://ameblo.jp/den-shock/entry-11815568208.html)
It includes Showa,Angya,NO ANSWER, NO LIVE!! lives,and all live videos are added audio commentary,according to this blog post.
Ok,I will buy!
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: tenton on 2014-04-09, 21:12:42
I wonder which No Answer No Live tour they have footage of. If it's that first stop at Yomiuri Hall, then they're just trolling me and my non-iVDR stance.
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: tenton on 2014-04-22, 08:23:08
Yup, it's Yomiuri Hall. They are indeed trolling me. At least it's not in HD? Ah well...
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: catsspat on 2014-04-22, 18:25:33
They are indeed trolling me.

At the risk of offending someone, I'm going to point out that the *only* effective method of dealing with trolls is...
..
.

ignoring them.
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: B-DASH on 2014-04-23, 11:23:32
I also read the details the other day... I would love to get it, but I don't even own a TV!
I hope the re-think this and edit it in other format..some day : (
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: Carlos on 2014-06-01, 23:22:33
I'm really considering to buy it, but I have some questions before doing it, I hope you can help me ^^; I want to know what I need to get to be able to use the iVDR player here in Mexico, Japanese electronics have different voltage.

And,is this an iVDR player? http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00GWERMWM/ref=dra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_1000?tag=dradisplay0jp-22

Sorry, I really don't know about iVDR products at all.
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: shinji on 2014-06-04, 20:02:01
I'm really considering to buy it, but I have some questions before doing it, I hope you can help me ^^; I want to know what I need to get to be able to use the iVDR player here in Mexico, Japanese electronics have different voltage.

What is your voltage? I cannot speak for the particular player you linked to, but the I-O DATA player that was packaged with her previous iVDR release works fine on US 110V.

And,is this an iVDR player? http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00GWERMWM/ref=dra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_1000?tag=dradisplay0jp-22

It looks like an iVDR player to me.
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: Carlos on 2014-06-04, 20:23:07
Voltage here in Mexico is the same as in US, so I guess that if I get the I-O DATA one it will work fine here. Anyway, I think I better wait for its release and see if there will be a special offer, iVDR + Player. Thanks for your help, shinji!
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: shinji on 2014-07-22, 04:56:22
The iVDR will be sold on a foreigner-friendly website eventually. I don't know if a player will be available too, but at least for the video, international shipping will be available. I am guessing that this will be on Right Gauge's international storefront.
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: AndCycle on 2014-07-22, 14:06:41
The iVDR will be sold on a foreigner-friendly website eventually. I don't know if a player will be available too, but at least for the video, international shipping will be available. I am guessing that this will be on Right Gauge's international storefront.

maybe you should send a mail and asking about that,

I do that every time when I spot something I wanna buy is on Japan RG shop but not on internal site,
they always kindly reply me and make that happened, probably the only fan club that tolerate my harassment  :-[

Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: shinji on 2014-07-23, 06:57:59
The iVDR will be sold on a foreigner-friendly website eventually. I don't know if a player will be available too, but at least for the video, international shipping will be available. I am guessing that this will be on Right Gauge's international storefront.

maybe you should send a mail and asking about that

Don't worry. I got this information from the most reliable source both you and I know of regarding Right Gauge's business operations ;)
Title: Re: iVDR-S? huh? seriously?
Post by: shinji on 2014-08-27, 15:18:49
http://global.rg-music.com/momoi/hmshop/

Here we go. Zipangu goods are up too.